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[thread] @Jacob Rees-Mogg "compensation and consent become two sides of the same coin" "Lawyers say the act is used to protect victims of abuse who are under 18, though the state's age of consent is 17, making the issue of Giuffre's consent unsettled." eu.usatoday.com/story/entertai…

Prince Andrew's lawyers say Virginia Roberts Giuffre's sexual-abuse claims are based on evidence not applicable to the New York Child Victims Act.

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Prince Andrew's lawyers want sexual-abuse suit dismissed because plaintiff was age of consent

Sorry my mistake He was saying it in relation to fracking twitter.com/Femi_Sorry/sta…

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Tories seem to think that "consent" just means simply paying the person afterwards. 😬 Jacob Rees-Mogg says it's ok to start #fracking local communities as long as you give compensation.

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"UK Energy Research Centre concluded shale gas would not reduce energy prices or reduce UK’s reliance on imports. It also pointed to the highly interconnected nature of European gas markets as a reason why fracking would not deliver cheaper fuel prices." eciu.net/analysis/brief…

Here's the founder of Cuadrilla theguardian.com/commentisfree/…

oh also twitter.com/davidrvetter/s…

On fracking in the UK, here's Prof Stuart Haszeldine, from the School of GeoSciences at the University of Edinburgh: “An inconvenient fact – like it or not, the UK has not discovered any good shale for onshore gas production." 1/

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Here is Thatcher

So I would ask those Conservative MPs What made you change your mind? When did you change it? Why did you change it?

So if we go back to a leadership election Here is what Liz Truss said: “One of the ways that we gain local support is for people sharing the benefits of, for example, gas extraction.”

"We’ve got these things called councils that assess local opinion. I was on a planning committee of a council, not the best experience I’ve had in my life, but local authorities, local MPs, we gauge local opinion that way.” drillordrop.com/2022/07/29/loc…

because MPs have such good form on "gauging" their post bag here's a reminder of @Nadhim Zahawi and @James Oh Brien lbc.co.uk/radio/presente…

On 22/9/2022 Rees-Mogg repeatedly declined to answer (on local backing) the question, only saying that it would be up to fracking companies to offer financial incentives, and that mass extraction of shale gas was in the “national interest”. theguardian.com/environment/20…

23/9/2022 twitter.com/LBC/status/157…

Fracking will only take place where there is local consent, Levelling-up Secretary Simon Clarke tells LBC. @Nick Ferrari

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So we have established that the Government views it as essential to offer compensation to residents. So the question becomes If this compensation is purchasing consent what is it purchasing the consent of?

1. Disruption from the traffic to/from fracking sites and or the actual fracking process itself? 2. Risk of earthquakes 3. Loss of value of property There may be more But let's start with those 3 With a real life example theguardian.com/environment/20…

Let's go to the village of Woodsetts rotherham.gov.uk/downloads/file…

So compensation item 1 1. Disruption from the traffic to/from fracking sites and or the actual fracking process itself? Now there's plenty of evidence of the noise pollution news.berkeley.edu/story_jump/noi…

theconversation.com/fracking-takes…

mic.com/life/living-ne…

There's also the waste water produced as part of the process theguardian.com/environment/20…

Now I remember this movie And this scene youtube.com/watch?v=BGX4nM…

This is similar to that twitter.com/JewishResister…

Nebraska farmer asks pro-fracking committee to drink water from a fracking zone, and they can’t answer the question. Red States, would you drink this water, because this is what fracking looks like going into your body?

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So now we move onto item 2 2. Risk of earthquakes

Here's a view fro America usgs.gov/faqs/does-frac…

Oh and here is the UK view on that twitter.com/AdamBienkov/st…

BREAKING: Liz Truss has just lifted the ban on fracking, despite her own government's British Geological Survey, due to be released today, finding that we don't know how much impact fracking will have on "seismic" events in the UK.

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Not to worry though Jacob Rees Mogg has applied his "common sense" and decided that it is worth weakening the health & safety rules in place to allow higher strength earthquakes independent.co.uk/climate-change…

Jacob is happy He is getting to slash and burn independent.co.uk/news/uk/politi…

see also: twitter.com/peterwalker99/…

Rees-Mogg, in return, says we "know shale gas is safe", and that seismic activity up to 2.5 on the Richter scale is nothing to be alarmed about.

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apparently its because people are too stupid to understand the logarithmic scale twitter.com/peterwalker99/…

Rees-Mogg says there is "hysteria" about fracking-based earthquakes, mainly based on people not understanding that the Richter scale is logarithmic. This is quite frankly amazing.

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Here's a helper youtube.com/watch?v=jkopRH…

And now we move onto item 3 3. Loss of value of property

And here we are yorkshirepost.co.uk/lifestyle/home…

blogs.lse.ac.uk/businessreview…

Also the evidence from America priceofoil.org/2016/01/26/fra…

So now we move on to the actual practical question How do you calculate what compensation value is sufficient to buy your "consent" ? So here is the listings for property values in Woodsetts rightmove.co.uk/property-for-s…

So the question then becomes How do you calculate the impact of the disruption in terms of noise/mental health? How do you calculate the impact of earthquakes? How do you calculate the impact to your property?

So from the Yorkshire Post article "Jon Charters-Reid, a Yorkshire surveyor, believes homes in areas close to shale gas extraction sites could be devalued by between 15-20 % due to the risk of earthquake, water pollution & the number of lorries on the roads near fracking sites."

So for example if we take the highest priced property in Woodsetts in terms of asking price at £620,000 20% of £620,000 is £124,000 So for that one property the pay out is £124,000

So next question Does every household get that 20% house value compensation? Is it only home owners that get it? What about other categories of occupancy? Does it get factored based on the location of the house in terms of distance from fracking site or if on trunk route?

What happens if you are not just covering Woodsetts but its neighbouring parishes ? The number of residents seeking compensation goes up quite dramatically So to any local residents Who are about to get bulldozered by Liz Truss and her fracking vision Get organised

Otherwise Liz may well ignore consent twitter.com/PippaCrerar/st…

EXCL: Liz Truss considering designating fracking sites as nationally important infrastructure, potentially cutting out local communities and breaking an election promise - cracking scoop from @Helena Horton theguardian.com/environment/20…

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Organise your community for getting compensation that you feel is appropriate to the impact of fracking Or decide that you can't be bought off Your choice After all Your representatives work for you theyworkforyou.com

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